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Bonus: Outtakes - Ep 12 'Sticky' - We're Back and More Unruly Than Ever

Arabella Gourlay & Nicole van Niekerk Season 1

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Ep 12 'Sticky' 's Outtakes. All the bits and pieces that were too plentiful to make into the main episode is now delivered to you on a silver platter! 

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Theme Music: Rat Head - Big Mouse Tree House
Written and performed by: Nicole van Niekerk (Singer), Steve van Niekerk (Lead Guitar & Backing Vocals), Rachel Espeute (Bass & Backing Vocals) & Bertie Atkinson (Drums)

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We're Back After a Break

Speaker 1

Welcome back to Unruly Confessions . Hi guys , hello , we're back . We're back . We're excited , so excited . We don't know what to do with ourselves for the excitement . We have missed this and we have missed you .

Speaker 2

We have so missed this and you . It's been way too long . We're sorry you've had to wait so long for the second part of the season along for the second part of the season .

Speaker 1

We really , really are , but it was unforeseen and and and we hope , by giving us the space to do it , you're going to enjoy see part two of season one just as much or even more . Oh so , just to remind you . Just to remind you , I'm arabella and this is Nicole yes . I'm sorry , I meant to let you say your name . That's completely fine , but it came tumbling out that's fine .

Speaker 2

You can say my name , say my name , say my name , say my name . No one is around .

Speaker 1

You say baby , I love you okay .

Speaker 2

So who were Destiny Child fans when they were kids ? Oh yeah , apparently , and Spice girls and we all have to start places . You know you you'll , you'll understand with time , that bala and my music taste is so bala , and my music taste is so incredibly eclectic , like very , and like you know , when you normally people , you ask someone hey , what do you listen to ? And then that person goes , oh , everything . And it's super annoying because you're like no , you don't listen to everything .

Speaker 2

I will put on georgian brutal death metal and I promise you you do not listen to everything yeah , yeah , so yeah but but when bella and I say we listen to everything we kind of seriously do , yes , I mean , my playlists are hilarious because you never know what's coming on next . Yeah .

Speaker 1

You can have some hardcore metal playing and the next thing will be like I want to talk like you , Scooby-Doo , Like me Scooby-Dooby-Dooby , I want wanna know .

Speaker 2

Anyway , you get it . So it's a mix here and that's kind of what we are like with a lot of things . I for one well , both of us actually are incredibly big prog heads like specifically like aggressive metal , but I also , absolutely in a heartbeat , will write a country album . Yes , yes , you will yeah , and I will sing along to it to .

Speaker 1

I introduced her to a Beyonce country song , which was , you know I don't often listen to . I like certain popular songs , but I don't like listen to the radio a lot , so I don't , I don't listen .

Speaker 2

So when I hear things .

Speaker 1

When I hear things I'm like , oh , I'll take a bit of you . I take a bit of you , but I generally I possibly wouldn't have a whole beyonce album . I don't know , maybe I would if I listened to it .

Speaker 2

But we don't no but I know I like some of her songs , but there's songs I like .

Speaker 2

So we sort of take a little snapple from here and a little yum yum from there very much , so look at it all together I mean this is not completely a tangent

Music Tastes and Tangents

Speaker 2

, because this podcast is as much about music as it is about anything else . Um , yeah , but we don't often go on a tangent on the music so much we should probably do that no . So yeah , please tell us what you listen to guys . We'd love to hear you comment . You know you can send us fan mail . I think you can text us fan mail from our website . It's very cute .

Speaker 1

Followed by , you know , first she calls out someone else's name and his dreams and then picks up the phone to me whilst she's having sex . I mean , I mean Ladies , gents , follow her for sex tips , you horrible person .

Speaker 2

No , what you mean ? No , do follow me for sex tips , do not follow me for what is , do not follow me for um . What is the word ? Social tips , yeah , social . On the other hand , sex tips not , oh no I got on the . I got the skills , y'all the tentacles , just the , sometimes the .

Speaker 1

the landing can be a bit off , that's true , but never , ever boring . Apart from you made a phone call , our generation's hand sign of a phone call oh is that , Is that . Well , if you think about it , people nowadays , so our sign is like from the old phone , so we have one , the pinky . Oh yeah , that's what I just did , and the thumb yeah , whereas a lot of people nowadays just pretend they're holding their um .

Speaker 2

Their smart really so it's that like that . But to me , now I'm thinking you're in a , now I'm thinking you're a pilot if you do that yeah , but they never had to deal with phones like that , so they don't get it right , yeah , just so everyone knows , we millennials and even the younger ones , who basically talk on loudspeaker .

Speaker 1

They put their hand sort of in front of their mouth , as if they're holding their phone in front of their mouth to speak to you .

Speaker 2

How interesting .

Speaker 1

It's weird as hell , it is Cool , but there's a little info for you there Very good Weirdness , so never mind what Carter says . So never mind what Carter says , he's just a little pent up ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , he is . But when you say it , it's fine , when I say it it's not fine .

Speaker 1

But you did say it . It is not okay .

Speaker 2

You did say it behind his back . It's different . Yes , I did not say it in front of his face . Fair in front of everybody , fair , you know .

Speaker 1

You should probably try saying in front of his face and we'll see what happens or not . Maybe not . I think I still wouldn't get such a big reaction that's true why ? Because it's you . What the hell were you , we going to do with ourselves ? Dangerous , that's dangerous .

Speaker 2

Last time we were left to do our own devices . Yes , we ended up having sex with one of the band , but the thing is they're not going to be here , so that's what the frick are we going to do ?

Speaker 1

Exactly .

Speaker 2

How about we create with them is one thing , but Without them , Ooh the chaos , oh my God .

Speaker 1

Bella Mike called when I was about to climb the stairs from the lobby . Do you have a minute ? Of course , a smile , what's up ? Do you think you could chat to Nicole about toning down ? Well , everything , everything , just completely redo her personality . Please just tell her to tone down everything , everything .

Speaker 2

Oh , bless his poor , poor Dom heart . He doesn't know what to do anymore . No , this is why , just to quickly insert , insert here . I know we aggravate this for the story , right , but just to be clear , I , in real life , the doms I've played with um , and I mean this with a lot of respect for myself and others , because it is a game , but because I play hard , I often have to tell them from like we need a safe word for real life in what I mean by that is when we're like at munches or not currently actively like having a sexy , like the rest of the time , like in the street , I can still be quite bratty and you know , you know , yes , I can skip , yeah , push buttons . So sometimes , if they're not in the energy for it , and that's often , they can say Nicole , enough , and like really use this , um , use that word . Enough is actually the word often for a lot of people because it's like yes , this is really not the moment , because otherwise I don't realize and I just keep playing .

Speaker 2

You know what I mean so you , but it's important to know what you expect from each other and everything . And Mike and I haven't known each other very long but at this point so , but he's starting to get it . I think he's just , um , yeah , he , he's getting to the point where he's like , right , I need to tell her to , to stop . But in in this case it's also fictional , because this is really far , right , I wouldn't really . I I can push really far , but this is not with . The problem here is that it's not with Mike , it's with other people who aren't part of the game . That's not cool , guys , that's not cool . We're putting this in here . So you know that's not cool , right , because we're learning as well as having fun , sorry , I just needed to say that .

Speaker 2

You must learn and have fun . I just needed to say that we must learn and have fun . Yes , I was just had to just point that out , okay , and so hello , teacher . So sorry , don't , yeah . So now he's asking me to tone down everything because it was too much .

Speaker 1

Okay , yes , and you can't pretend Carter isn't being provoking as hell yeah , thank you Bella .

Speaker 2

Thank you Bella because you know he's just he's coming in

Nicole's Bratty Behavior with Mike

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

He's firing at you with all cylinders half the time .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we can all agree on this right . Carter pushes Carter's a brat .

Speaker 1

Yes , Carter is a brat . He's a grumpy ass brat .

Speaker 2

He's an emo brat . This , just freaking this , just this just occurred to me . If we're going to give not that he's in the kink scene , but if we had to put everyone on like a kink status , he would certainly be a brat . He brats me half to death , yes , but he is a grumpy brat , yeah that's true .

Speaker 1

A snarky brat , snarky brat , snarky . He's a snarky brat , indeed , whereas you're a silly brat . Yeah , do you have a list of what you need us to get Melissa made one ? It's fair .

Speaker 2

Melissa made one . I mean , I know they don't have a lot of time .

Speaker 1

Well , for one thing , I just can't see him writing all those things out .

Speaker 2

Yeah , imagine him just making all this .

Speaker 1

It's not his kinks or lyrics .

Speaker 2

He ain't bothered that is true , he is definitely very masculine in that way he's like no , not for me . But to be fair , poor Melissa , she does everything any of them want . It's very sweet .

Speaker 1

I guess , that is the point of a PA it is , but technically she's Andrew's PA .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , no she's the band's PA . She's the band's PA . I'm Andrew's fake .

Speaker 1

PA . Yes , you made yourself .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Andrew's not aware of it .

Speaker 1

No , he has no clues that he has a PA .

Speaker 2

But all his PA , his PA does nothing for him except make a mess of things for him and then like Creates more messes for him . Creates messes and like fucks the rest of the guys and not him . What ? No , yes , only one . I don't know why I just said the rest of the guys Gosh or two .

Speaker 1

No one .

Speaker 2

No One , wow One .

Speaker 1

There's a few events . You'll need some specific clothes for . He clarified you may have some of the items . Not sure if Nicole does . Nicole definitely doesn't because she packs like a twat .

Speaker 2

Whoa Excuse me .

Speaker 1

Sorry , I didn't admit it was that hard .

Speaker 2

That was best friend truth bomb my lord .

Speaker 1

That didn't mean to sound as harsh as it did no , but Bella is completely right , I'm not wrong .

Speaker 2

I'm not wrong , I do . I often well , I pack like a twat , but I definitely pack like a twat for this tour , that's for sure . Yeah , because he gave me a hot minute to prepare . Well , as he sees it , he gave you a hot minute to prepare .

Speaker 1

Well , as he sees it , he gave you a whole night to prepare . That's true .

Speaker 2

Well , mike and I don't tend to see eye to eye very often On timing . The thing no , no , no , definitely not . Anyway , yes . So yes , I can totally confirm I do not have those items . Yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . Let's be honest , you're nightie is my pajamas yeah , those purple pajamas are like purple one has a teddy on it . So sexy it is , it's like when you're going on tour with your favorite band .

Speaker 2

Well , to be fair , I didn't , I didn't , yeah , that's true . But , to be fair , it depends on the person , because , you know , a nice teddy pajamas could be really good for , like , daddy little girl , which is not what we're doing here , you guys . No , that's not us , even though sometimes I , I I bring that out in him because he just , oh , yeah , not anymore . But , um , but , yes , sorry , that's not the mood you were trying to set . No , it wasn't . Anyway , guys , if you don't know what , uh , the daddy little girl dynamic is , do ask and we'll explain it . But I feel like , if it's not , I feel like it sort of says what it needs to .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it is .

Speaker 2

It is a type a little is a brat is a type of little to be . To be clear , though , I think we've talked about this before this , this rings we have oh , okay , then I'll shut up , let's move on that's why I'm letting you handle the fireworks . Ah , I see very sneaky wow , this man is afraid of me and he won't admit it .

Speaker 1

Yeah to be fair , he has his reasons .

Speaker 2

He's not really .

Speaker 1

It's part of the game . Yes , it's like . I don't know why I just got the image of you in a not a bin or something A bin . I said not a bin , but something like and he's trying to put the lid on . And you're like , and he's trying to put the lid on and you're like a symbolism .

Speaker 2

This is symbolism for for the , the um , the brat , brat dom dynamic or brat uh brat handler .

Speaker 1

If you want dynamic as beala just described , get in the bin , got them in a pot , got them in a pot and you're trying to put the lid on . But they're all like reaching out and scratching at you Fair , a bit like those cat videos when you see there's a hole and they're looking at something and then a paw comes up and goes .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I see it . I see what you mean .

Speaker 1

Yes , and then their head pops up .

Speaker 2

Very true .

Speaker 1

Oh , at some point I wish you guys got to see the video of us recording , because we look ridiculous , we do Half the time . We do Because we act all of this out like there are hand gestures , there is , there is wiggling going on anyway , he's so done with both brats , I know he's so , he's so freaking thrilled to be sending us on a shopping trip away from away so that , so that he can so much so he gives us his freaking debit card .

Speaker 2

He's like take the money and just be elsewhere . Well , it has to be a little bit more than this , because he could just send us away . A part of him is enjoying this incredibly .

Speaker 1

Exactly , exactly . And now there's two of us . I can just leave the country with it . You know I'll have you arrested if you dare .

Speaker 2

Fair enough also , you've all just admitted it to him . So if you now do leave the country , he knows , yeah .

Speaker 1

Well , he knew anyway he's like well , yes , he's like it'll be that person right there .

Speaker 2

Americans friends , american friends .

Speaker 1

Wow , I'm so sorry , american fans of ours .

Speaker 2

If you're listening from the US , can you tell us ? Do you know what the word bonkers means ? Or are we just being like ? Do we just believe you don't know and actually you're completely aware ?

Speaker 1

Well , maybe they do , especially those from Yonkers what Yonkers , new York ?

Speaker 2

Okay , I've never .

Speaker 1

Or is that just in a musical ?

Speaker 2

That was confusing in real life . I don't know . I'm now questioning my knowledge . Follow-up questions for those in the US Is Yonkers , new York , a real thing ?

Speaker 1

It is a Hello Dolly , which we have spoken previously on this podcast .

Speaker 2

It's coming back Anyway . Okay , we've tangented so hard , back we go .

Speaker 1

Yes , but only in automatic . I responded . Nikki has both . God help us .

Speaker 2

He's so mean to me , I drive really well . Can everyone ? Okay , look , I understand because of my personality and , like my general chaotic energy , but I promise you , when I'm behind the wheel , I am in complete control she's a very , very , very .

Speaker 1

She is a very responsible driver I cannot thank you .

Speaker 2

I have because of my nuts energy . I have awareness everywhere . It really helps . I can speak to you , I can listen to music and I can drive and everyone survives , and Mike is just being . He's just never driven with me before . Well , not at this point , he hadn't yet driven with me , so he'll change his mind .

Speaker 1

I'm the speedy one .

Speaker 2

Yeah , bella's the speedy one .

Speaker 1

I have a bit of a theory on this . Okay , people who are disabled tend to be speedy because we don't get anywhere fast any other time fair enough , so we're like yeah let's go .

Speaker 2

I had , I have a similar theory , because that's why I don't really speed

Carter the Snarky Brat

Speaker 2

, because the rest of my life I'm just like oh my god , exactly , this makes so much sense it does . But then what about the non-disabled , the like able people who speed anyway and they're just like cutting you off in ass bags my parents are the speedies too . I also think my speediness is inherited yeah , so there are multiple reasons here anyway .

Speaker 2

Wow , we cannot get to the end of this thing , okay do god , help us all yes , can I just say I love how you said our goose is cooked instead of my goose , because I'm pretty sure mike said my goose , not our goose , right ? Yeah , like I don't care , I , I do what I want . Then I'm going to give more of a shit . No , I'm going to worry about you exactly , potentially , not intentionally , intentionally yeah , nice , well , I , um , I promise not to do to scratch it intentionally .

Speaker 2

I'm just thinking of particularly a moment I don't know if you even remember this back in south end on sea when we were studying um , no , it wasn't , it was in london we went to a I'm just thinking of particularly a moment I don't know if you even remember this Back in South End-on-Sea when we were studying no , it wasn't , it was in London we went to a pizzeria , but like a lovely Italian place that was actually quite expensive and we were having dinner just the two of us , and you saw a hot person obviously . And then I remember it very vividly because I remember Balal going look me in the eyes , there is a cute person behind you . Don't look yet . Don't look yet very precise about how I should act , because she got so used to before saying it , and then I would like full-on , whole body turn and be like exactly , and she wouldn't be quiet with the where it'd be where .

Speaker 1

Where is this hot guy ?

Speaker 2

isn't the hot guy now staring right at me because I'm making so much noise ?

Speaker 1

and I'll be like , oh dear god , why ? Why did I point it out ?

Speaker 2

anyway . So that's what we're talking about here , that's subtle . Yes , yes , yes , but you will point it out .

Speaker 1

I will point it out and I'll be fucking subtle about it .

Speaker 2

But won't it look odd if we're wearing such similar clothes ?

Speaker 1

Hasn't stopped us before .

Speaker 2

Fair enough . I love how that was my . That was the problem I had . I was like but what if we look like sisters , similar ?

Speaker 1

sisters are doing it ?

Speaker 2

oh , we're singing two different songs , but that's all good . I was going . Sisters are doing it for themselves and you were somewhere else .

Speaker 1

But it's all good , it's all good . I yeah , it's all good . I went . I went down the a different , the old musical stuff .

Speaker 2

Right , white christmas , here we come just to be clear , I'm not being a diva . It is really difficult with my body to find lingerie , or especially bras like like knickers underwear's fine , yeah , but bras , it's always a mission .

Speaker 2

It is such . It's , oh , it's even worse in France , because for some reason they just believe that if you have , if your cup size is a certain size , then your back size must be big too , yeah , or they just don't put any . I mean , I don't like underwire very much , but if they put absolutely no support , it's just disastrous , yeah .

Speaker 1

So yeah , we don't seem to get the concept that there are other shapes that and that .

Speaker 2

If you have breasts , they tend to be heavy .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so , and also it tends to always be the ugly bras .

Speaker 2

Exactly . You want us to waste material on you . We'll waste the cheapest material possible .

Speaker 1

Exactly , we'll give you the granny bras .

Speaker 2

You're not going to look cute . This is why I hate it . I don't want to spend , and that's the other thing the price when you go up in an in cup size it's suddenly like 50 pounds or like 60 euros at the very least . So , like trying to look cute for a guy , I'm like you know what , dude , I'll just show up naked . It's fucking expensive , it's way cheaper . It'll be kinky as shit .

Speaker 1

I'll just show up naked yes , it'll be fine , it'll be good , or you buy it you can be a flasher with your coat exactly .

Speaker 2

I'll buy a nice coat and not it will be cheaper than the lingerie it will be right . I'll stop being a pain . I was just explaining that I am not a diva , I promise you . It's hard , it is Okay .

Speaker 1

And I'm like Jesus Christ , why do I tell her not to do these things ? Because I know it's just going to go so much bigger .

Speaker 2

Inside myself . I really feel like I'm making an effort , but apparently not right , you should see how she sneaks about .

Speaker 1

Like a little gremlin , she almost makes her own little theme music .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , definitely , yeah . I will be caught so far in any sneaking game . I love sneaking games because I can make a noise and like in real life and no one catches me . But in real life , oh , it's a mess , right ? Yeah , it's completely batshit . Though . Imagine the vocalist of your favorite band paying 10 000 euros for you to go go shopping with your best friend I mean , how cool is that it's very cool .

Speaker 2

It also makes me think this man has money to burn

Shopping Trip with Mike's Debit Card

Speaker 2

. Oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , okay , but they've made it big time . They have we . We are talking about headlining bands here . Not all metal bands make it to this extent . No , this is not a clue no , it's a clue .

Speaker 1

This is not making it obvious in whatsoever way possible .

Speaker 2

You can all have your ideas . As long as we never legally say anything , no one can sue us , and that's what's important . Yes , which ?

Speaker 1

is why we neither confirm nor deny . Okay , that was weird half fun , half fun . We neither confirm nor deny Okay .

Speaker 2

That was weird , have fun .

Speaker 1

Have fun .

Speaker 2

I don't know why , but it reminds me of it reminds me of Dude Where's my Car ? Where he gets to the Chinese and she's like and then , and then have fun , okay , and then and then and then and then and then , okay , and then , and then , and then , and then and then and then . Okay , giving our ages away here . People who are in the BDSM community know me as Sticky Nicky , obviously obviously because that's your name on FetLife .

Speaker 1

Sorry , I , we can edit that out if you don't want people knowing that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm going to go peep , that's your name on FetLife .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , apart from they'll know it's Sticky Nicky , I think you need to beep out FetLife .

Speaker 2

Well , they can follow me , but they can't be my friend without my permission . It'll be like any sign size , so it's fine . Yeah , and also , this show talks about how I'm into bdsm . If someone goes and finds me on fetlife and then outs me as being into bdsm , it'll be kind of fucking stupid now everyone will be like and , and you know she's doing a podcast about- it .

Speaker 1

We've posted all of this on there already anyway exactly , okay , fair enough .

Speaker 2

So , yeah , sticky nikki is my name in the bdsm community , but so , yeah , so , so , um , it's not that big of a secret , but when it's like outside of that community , it's not okay , it's just a weird . Don't call me that because it's just it . I'll tell you the truthful reason why because it evokes certain feelings , and I don't if I'm not prepared , I don't want to be in the , in the street , being ill prepared for my body doing a thing . That's I'm going to be clear with you all . That's the reason I feel uncomfortable if people call me sticky , and that's also why some people , like family members or people , should know never to call me that . They don't even clock it . Well , they don't . No , no , yeah , but now , if they listen to this , I don't .

Speaker 2

However , yeah , you can , but you're also all the way you're in the community as well I am , but yeah , anyway , I suppose the band is really not a big deal , but also , like when you do stuff like that , we do want to like play it a little bit , yeah .

Speaker 1

Because you kind of like the fact that they know , but you're not going to show that you like the fact that they know .

Speaker 2

No . Because again I'm supposed to be being obedient , and when people call me sticky , it's like it's harder . It's harder to be obedient Right . It's harder .

Speaker 1

It's harder to be obedient Right Hang on .

Speaker 2

Are we talking American football or soccer , or like European football ?

Speaker 1

Because doesn't that change the amount of European ?

Speaker 2

because I'm a British person . Oh right , okay , so how many ? That's 14 . That's 14 .

Speaker 1

Yes , but I've made this joke many times over the years .

Speaker 2

That's true . I think we make it at another point in this anyway , I'm just pointing out we do we are saying we need a team of 14 men to keep us satisfied . We actually don't say gender , no exactly .

Speaker 1

Because we're all about all of it , people . Well , I'm heteroflexible , whereas she is bisexual .

Speaker 2

Yes , well , if he's angry at me , you can protect me .

Speaker 1

I laughed .

Speaker 2

Yeah , because what the fuck ? How are you supposed to protect me against this guy who's like six foot and built like yeah , what are you gonna do ? No , mike , no , no , stay , stop , sit good boy .

Speaker 1

Oh wow , no , stay , stop Sit , good boy .

Speaker 2

Oh wow , oh wow . Mike , forgive us , we don't mean this , we're just playing . Please don't come at us for real . We actually really can't take you on . I don't think physically , no , I don't think we can Plus .

Speaker 1

I'm not sure if that we could , because we'd just be like yeah , that's true , actually We'd just be two puddles in front of him . True , you said something . What ?

Speaker 2

Oh gosh , that would be so annoying . Like I'll just see lips move Like the first , like very first episode when I met him . Just like lips move , but I couldn't hear anything he was saying .

Speaker 1

Because I've gone deaf . Exactly , we're just death by death by who you are . And Xander at that moment , dearest Xander , I'm sorry , I say sorry dearest Xander dearest Xander , I'm writing a letter to thee . Soon I'll be writing a sonnet on thy spleen , probably because they've seen it about a thousand times . Yeah , that's it .

Speaker 2

They've just seen it . They're like well , more ass Okay .

Speaker 1

All the ass . Yeah , we're so used to the ass we're so used to .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we're so used to the ass , we're so used to that ass . That's actually . Jason actually said that once Because someone asked him this question .

Speaker 1

And .

Speaker 2

Jason was like , honestly , I'm not concentrating on like he's like , I'm not in that mood . I'm playing my drums , I'm not watching

Lingerie Shopping Struggles

Speaker 2

anything that's happening next to me and it's like , yeah , fair dues , that is the way it should be . They're doing their fucking job , they're working . Who's thinking of sex while they're working ?

Speaker 1

okay , I am that will be , us okay , but we have specific work , we have an interesting job we do , but even when we were doing other work , we still okay , maybe we're about we're bad .

Speaker 2

I mean like , okay , we are not the good examples , no , but like , I think like the majority . Okay , you guys tell us what you In the comments , like what you think . Like , do you think about sex ? I think you think about sex when you get bored , maybe , but like , yes , yeah , but like't because you're concentrating on the job Exactly and exactly , especially if you're a job where you can get your fingers and lose a toe or whatever if you're not concentrating right .

Speaker 1

But , like I think most , when I was a train driver , I was certainly not thinking about sex , the entire time when I was in charge , when I was literally driving the train .

Speaker 2

Yeah , exactly .

Speaker 1

Only when I was bored walking up and down it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , then it's different , but I think most people like musicians and stuff like that . They're obviously enjoying what they're doing and they're concentrating on what they're doing , Especially this level . So , I think , yeah , they're not thinking of a sex ride at that moment . Yeah , I think it's the same . I think I saw a comedian that I really love and adore , luke luke severade . If anyone's interested in checking him out , he calls himself a joke yeller because he , he does metal and jokes , right .

Speaker 2

But um he he said someone asked him like um about , about , like about sex , like you know , have it , do you like fucking ? And he was like well , not , right now I'm working . And I thought that that was true . It's so true . It's like yeah , that like yes , but I'm not , I'm not in the mood right now , you know so , yeah , it's not so much .

Speaker 1

You're not in the mood , you're just not thinking about that right now yeah , but men are different .

Speaker 2

From what I've understood from the men I've met , they can turn it on and off much quicker than we can , right , yeah , so like if they are working , there's no space for that testosterone . In the same way although I'm not going to name names because I don't want to shame that this person or like anything , but someone I love very dearly told me recently that he often gets erections at work and he's just like oh fuck my life , but he's not even thinking . He's not even thinking about it . Apparently , it's just like the body going and clearing up some piping over here , thanks , over here , let's let's do this thing . Yeah , let's just make sure everything's still working properly .

Speaker 2

And he's like okay , jesus christ , no , go away yeah and I was like , oh , I thought that stopped happening after , like your teenage years . And then I had like all of the men go what ? No , nicole , no , it doesn't stop after your teenage years . I was like I thought you could control it . They were like , uh , not often .

Speaker 1

I was like , oh , fuck , okay I would hate to have a penis .

Speaker 2

Actually , we are so lucky that's the one thing we are lucky with . You can't see when we're turned on Apart from you with the shaking . Well , well , I have to be very turned on for the shakes .

Speaker 1

And then you have to , and then that's true , and then they have to know you well enough to know what the shaking is , otherwise , they're just like I've had people in public go , are you okay , Are you cold ?

Speaker 2

I'm like yeah , so cold .

Speaker 1

Yep , that's it .

Speaker 2

Cold , I'm freezing . Anyway , we ooh tangent , all right , big tangent . So all of that to say the band is probably not . They do care about ass . They're just not caring about it right now because they're concentrating on their profile .

Speaker 1

When I stepped , off stage five minutes later . I needed a towel immediately For my face . People For my face . Yes , Because , my brain . When I first read that I was like oh , hello , but also no , probably , probably A little bit , because they're there and and you're shaking provocatively and you're trying to be sexy when you're doing that sort of dancing , you have to embody it . And you're being sexy around the men that you were obsessed with Exactly . I'm coming off that stage so horny it's unreal , that's for sure . Seriously horny .

Speaker 2

Say it as it is .

Speaker 1

I need to be ripping off his clothes . Right that second .

Speaker 2

Which is why , oh , I don't want to give it away , but you guys will see when they eventually do have sex . There's a lot of it after shows .

Speaker 1

For this reason , yes , because I'm just like no , anyway . There's a funness in the recording that we don't get quite so much in the admin of it all .

Speaker 2

Oh , are you kidding ? Not even remotely . We don't do the admin because we want to .

Speaker 1

We are terrible . We're like , oh , do we have to do this , Admini .

Speaker 2

To be fair , we're actually getting really good at it because we've decided to be joyful about it despite the fact that it's not our favorite thing .

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Speaker 1

But we would much we try and find the joy in it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but we would much rather be doing the podcast than doing that stuff , exactly so on that note , on that note on that note . Please , please , if you guys would love to support us and help us out , share this with with your friends , rate us , please . Can you just put a little rating on whichever app you listen ? Yes , that would help us um immeasurably . Subscribe , share , follow us on socials .

Speaker 1

That helps a lot as well , um , yes , it does and and we , we're going to try and start doing .

Speaker 2

I think we were talking about monthly lives yes , we're going to start doing monthly lives on twitch um , so do do tune in for those come on to the social so you also know what's happening .

Speaker 1

Yeah , because we announce stuff all the time on there , because half the time we don't know until like a few days what we're going to do , because we're like , oh , let's do a thing .

Speaker 2

And then we do it . Having said that , our first live , we'd been planning since November .

Speaker 1

We had been planning it for a long time .

Speaker 2

Two and a half months before and then , if there's any of you I'm gonna say this jokingly , but I'm serious um , anyone knows like a millionaire who would like to back us and just you know , who doesn't want anything returned yes , please just want to pay for our podcast because they love our art . Please , please , let them know that we are willing , do you ?

Speaker 1

accept , we are so very willing .

Speaker 2

Or on a lower key version . If you would like to support us financially , we would love that very much , because we do , even though it's not about that at all . We really need some sort of financial backing for this to continue , so there are two ways you can do that . You can subscribe to our website , in which you can pay as little as three dollars a month , or as much as I think it's 25 , I don't , I don't remember .

Speaker 1

That shows you how little we know ?

Speaker 2

about the monies and because it's all about the love , and then , if you check up below this podcast , you'll have the links to all the things . There's also a link to support the show and that will take you to buy me a coffee where you can give a one-off donation . Um but they have also now started doing monthly ones oh cool , so you can do either a monthly or a one-off . Um again , as little as I think , three doll hairs doll hairs .

Speaker 1

Yes , yes , three doll hair so please , um do that , that would be awesome but if you can't , we understand that too , just the rating , the liking , the sharing , the commenting , whatever , sending us a cool little fan message because you can do that below as well where it says .

Speaker 2

What does it say , bella ? What is the exact line that it says ? It's like contact us send us a message .

Speaker 1

Is it send us a message ?

Speaker 2

something like that you'll get the vibe send us a message and we get little fan mails we haven't had one yet , so not , not on our website .

Speaker 1

We really want one , sorry say again we really want one .

Speaker 2

Could that be exciting , yeah we've had lots , don't get us wrong . We've had lots of messages from fans , but like , not on our website where it says fan mail no , no exactly we've just added on social , we want fan mail .

Speaker 2

Yeah , exactly , social media has been going really well and it's generally not something we enjoy because we are not naturally posters and content creators on that front no on , we are very creative on this podcasting is so so much fun and we don't worry story writing and music and being generally munchkins , yes , but like going we're great at yeah , but like going , hey , do our listen to our things . And oh , that's hard , do it ?

Speaker 1

like oh , oh , no , why if you meet me and we are finding some joy in it .

Speaker 2

Exactly we are . If you ever see us in public , you'll notice we're much better at talking to you about the podcast in person , like in the street , at metal gigs , at kink events , like everywhere I go I'm like have you heard ? I'm on a podcast .

Speaker 1

Exactly , and we did stickers and we're thinking of doing some more stickers and some coasters and what not , and we've just been like giving them out to people going , hey , yeah yeah , do this .

Speaker 2

We're really we're really putting in a lot of energy into this . So , but you know , but it is at the moment it's all coming from us . So that is why , with a lot of grace , we ask you if you can support us financially . We really would appreciate it because we do need it to . Yes continue and rightly so , because being in a ds relationship and ds is um , it just means dom sub by . By the way , in a Dom sub relationship , the sub also has responsibilities for the Dom , like they both have responsibilities for each other .

Speaker 2

So if he's like having a moody and he's like there's something going on with him , I need to know .

Speaker 1

I need to like figure out .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm also probably a bit anxious because I'm like , did I screw something ?

Speaker 1

up , did I do a ?

Speaker 2

thing . Yeah , but it's from what the other guy said . It's likely just because he didn't feel great about his performance and they tend to take that to heart a lot .

Speaker 1

They do , they do . But you know everyone has days that it just didn't hit quite right . The fans wouldn't have noticed .

Speaker 2

Yeah , exactly , but at the same time also , I was just thinking they don't really have dancers so much anymore . No , when , when we first wrote this , they did they got it over .

Speaker 1

I don't think I've ever , I don't think I've ever seen them with dancers ?

Speaker 2

uh-huh , I can't tell you now while we're on the air , live no with the , with people , but but um , it's , uh , it's . But they used to in certain songs .

Speaker 1

You know the songs for the ladies oh , right , yes , yes , yes , yes , yeah , yeah but they but that was when they were quite a bit younger , like now .

Speaker 2

I'm not gonna say their age now at this stage in their life , they have less of that .

Speaker 1

No , no , it's much more else .

Speaker 2

We've mixed it together very hard , like today , and back then

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Speaker 2

it's all smushed together , which helps you not know which band we're talking about or which bandza we're talking about . By the way , guys , we have a nickname for Mike behind his back , obviously the Golden Retriever of Metal . Hence our . By the way , guys , we have a nickname for Mike behind his back , obviously , yeah , also just the golden retriever of metal . The golden retriever of metal . Hopefully that doesn't give away who he actually is no one , I don't think anyone else actually calls him that in like the public metal world .

Speaker 2

But we call him that behind his back . We might have to stop now . Yes , because we've said it here shit .

Speaker 1

Yes , we might just between ourselves right , okay , yeah , yeah .